Final Table Poker with Phil Gordon on Calculating Odds


Get the DVD at www.expertinsight.com ! This is a clip from Phil's new DVD that offers an easy to understand method for counting outs and calculating odds. This DVD runs for 100 min and has 2 viewing modes for beginner and advanced. It also comes with a FREE Starting Hand Guide and an Odds & Outs Chart. Get the DVD and get inside Phil's mind at http !

By: The Sport Commentator Date: February 7, 2010
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    February 7, 2010 at 21:39
  • kingdomdom1
    @linkedup8484 pot is 300, opponent bets 100 (pot is now 400), if you call 100 (pot becomes 500), your 100 represent 100/500 of the pot. hence 20%.
    February 7, 2010 at 22:13
  • RubenTheCripplerRuiz
    maybe because when he calls it will add to 500 and scince he called 100 its 1/5
    February 7, 2010 at 23:02
  • icedog141
    if you call the pot will be 500 (400+100)
    February 7, 2010 at 23:53
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    February 7, 2010 at 23:54
  • linkedup8484
    ok on the calculating pot odds portion...he says that the 100 chip will represent 1/5 or 20% of the pot....but the pot is 400 and your chip is 100...so how is that 1/5 or 20%...wouldn't it represent 1/4 or 25% of the pot?
    February 8, 2010 at 00:01
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  • BriDirt
    again, i am only comparing 2 hands, not saying witch one is good
    February 8, 2010 at 02:01
  • ojideagu
    Playing crap aces like Ace 2 in a full table is a recipe to go broke. Only donkeys do that. Do not play anything less then ace 10 in a full table unless you are in late position and noone has raised.
    February 8, 2010 at 02:39
  • ojideagu
    You are forgetting the Implied odds. If you do hit the Flush you will bust him for his entire stack, which increases the odds and profit to make the call.
    February 8, 2010 at 02:53
  • UKRickie
    It would depend in my opinion, who you are against and what comes out on the flop, then how you play it. It doesn't take a pro to realise Aces are ahead of Jacks pre-flop. Still I would rather have J-10 suited than A-2 off.
    February 8, 2010 at 03:06
  • BriDirt
    Well somebody asked what hand was better. I am trying to tell them which is better in what situation. Not saying that either one is good in particular, just comparing.
    February 8, 2010 at 03:30
  • UKRickie
    Pretty bad info in my opinion. You're telling people that A-2 is a good hand. It's one of the worst played hands. Yeah if you pair the ace you have top pair, but the worst kicker. So if somebody does manage to have a higher kicker you may lose a hell of a lot. Also 10 J isn't a very good hand either. You have to take account of positioning. If i'm first to act with J-10 offsuit I would fold them however if i'm last and only everybody but two have folded (the other two limp in) I would limp in.
    February 8, 2010 at 03:56
  • aboggild
    Take this scenario: i hold suited hole cards, the pot is 100 on the flop and i have a flush draw. My opponent bets 100 making the pot a total of 200. Using the calculations of this video I should call. 9 outs x 4 = 36% chance to win, pot odds 1/3 = 33%. This is a VERY wrong call in my oppinion. I have about 20% chance of making my flush on the turn. If I dont hit it my opponent will likely bet between half the pot and the whole pot (150-300). Again making it way to expensive to call the bet.
    February 8, 2010 at 04:42
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  • BriDirt
    If the odds you get paid with are better than the odds of you catching your cards than its the right call

    Its like betting $5 on a coinflip, but if you win you get $6. Just keep making the bets with the payouts in your favor and you will be a winner.

    February 8, 2010 at 05:03
  • BriDirt
    Its the same calculations. The only thing is you sometimes cant risk too much in a tournament on a draw where you are only 30% to win just because of the reason that once you lose your chips you are out, even if the pot odds are telling you to call. In cash games, if you make the right calls like this all the time (key words, every time) then you will come out a winner in the long run.
    February 8, 2010 at 05:22
  • BriDirt
    Think of it this way:

    If you have an A 2 then all you really want is another A so you can pair.

    If you got a 10 J then any 10 OR J would look alright

    A 10 J is probably the better choice for a cash game just to see the flops, but if the 2 hands went all in preflop (as in tournaments when the blinds get very high) , then the A 2 would win about 60% of the time.

    Btw, if you got an A at a full table, theres about a 70% chance you are the only one who has one.

    February 8, 2010 at 05:43
  • simandicos
    depends your position at the table
    February 8, 2010 at 06:20
  • angel2988
    Is this way of calculating odds/outs only for tourney play, or can it be applied to cash games as well?? I'm new to poker so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
    February 8, 2010 at 07:18
  • johnhelmes
    wow thats genius
    February 8, 2010 at 08:14
  • NightSkyDarkness
    that doesn't matter. it is already in the calculation.
    the other players can have most of your outs in their hands, but they can also have almost none of your outs in their hands (and that would increase the chance you hit your straight/flush)
    February 8, 2010 at 08:48
  • calahoon22
    you cant really say coz it depends on the situation: how many are playing, the size of your stack, how aggressive/passive the other players are etc. but because of the high card it would probably be the A2 suited
    February 8, 2010 at 09:22
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    February 8, 2010 at 10:03